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Blue grass musician

by SmarpanGamt » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:14 am
Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from his own.
(A) were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
(B) influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
(C) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, was also inspirational to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was different significantly in comparison to
(D) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, who included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, the music of whom differed significantly when compared to
(E) were an influence on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was significantly different from that of

OA later ..Plz explain the answer.

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by hardik.jadeja » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:25 am
IMO B

"repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style" constitute a plural, "was" in option C and D is wrong.

In option A, "that" is followed by a comma. Its not the correct usage of "that".

Between E and B, B is more concise.
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by jube » Sun Jun 13, 2010 5:25 am
IMO B

"were influential on generations of bluegrass artists" seems wordy. The best way to say that seems to be "influenced generations of bluegrass artists". Also, I could be wrong but I think influential is not used in this context.

What is the OA?

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by SmarpanGamt » Sat Jun 19, 2010 11:13 am
hardik.jadeja wrote:IMO B

"repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style" constitute a plural, "was" in option C and D is wrong.

In option A, "that" is followed by a comma. Its not the correct usage of "that".

Between E and B, B is more concise.

OA : is B Thanks

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by Optimus Prime » Tue Jun 22, 2010 1:44 am
Not convinced..could somebody explain why A is best among A,B and E?

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by sharkin » Thu Aug 12, 2010 3:27 am
Can somebody plz comment on the impact (in selecting correct ans) of following:

"that included" in (A), (C)
"including" in (B), (E)
"who included" in (D)

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by skprocks » Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:08 am
sharkin wrote:Can somebody plz comment on the impact (in selecting correct ans) of following:

"that included" in (A), (C)
"including" in (B), (E)
"who included" in (D)
Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from his own.
(A) were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
That can't be used to introduce a supplementary relative clause if the head noun is human; it is totally ungrammatical: *I asked Vice Chancellor Bradshaw, that I have known for many years, whether he agreed.(INCORRECT)
The head noun here is musicians.

(B) influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
The use of including, over that included is grammatically correct. And more concise.
(C) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, was also inspirational to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was different significantly in comparison to
That can't be used to introduce a supplementary relative clause if the head noun is human; it is totally ungrammatical: *I asked Vice Chancellor Bradshaw, that I have known for many years, whether he agreed.(INCORRECT)
The head noun here is musicians.

(D) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, who included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, the music of whom differed significantly when compared to
The use of was is not justified.
(E) were an influence on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was significantly different from that of
The use of including is fine. But the "from that of" is not clear.

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by akhpad » Sun Aug 15, 2010 12:36 pm
B is ok.

Lets me try to understand the structure of the sentence.

Is this the main clause?
Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, X, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, Y.

X = whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style influenced generations of bluegrass artists
Y = whose music differed significantly from his own
his = Bill Monroe
his own = Bill Monroe's music

Is it correct?

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by e-GMAT » Mon Aug 16, 2010 6:09 am
"Bluegrass musician Bill Monroe, whose repertory, views on musical collaboration, and vocal style were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from his own."

What does the sentence mean:
1: Bill M's repertory, views on.., and vocal style influenced generations on bluegrass artists.
2: Musician Bill M was an inspiration to many musicians such as Elvis P and Jerry G
3: Music of these musicians (Elvis P and Jerry G) was different from music of Bill M

What are the errors in this sentence:
1: Wordy - xyz were influential on abc. More precise usage is Xyz influenced abc.
2: Modifier error - musicians, that included Elvis P and Jerry G. This modifier is incorrect because 'musicians' are people and hence must be referred to using "who". Furthermore, typically comma is not used before 'that'. However, I have not come across any question in which this error will be the only reason to eliminate an answer choice.

Process of Elimination:

(A) were influential on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
Incorrect. Wordy and modifier error as discussed above
(B) influenced generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music differed significantly from
Correct.
(C) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, was also inspirational to many musicians, that included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was different significantly in comparison to
Incorrect. SV Error - plural subject (repertoire, views, and vocal style) with singular verb "were", wordy - influential, unidiomatic - different in comparison to.
(D) was influential to generations of bluegrass artists, also inspired many musicians, who included Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, the music of whom differed significantly when compared to [/color]
Incorrect. Wordy - was influential, the music of whom, Unidiomatic - differed when compared to,
(E) were an influence on generations of bluegrass artists, was also an inspiration to many musicians, including Elvis Presley and Jerry Garcia, whose music was significantly different from that of
Incorrect. Wordy - were influence on, from that of his own

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by eastcoastrocks » Mon Jul 25, 2011 10:34 am
Nice explanation e-GMAT. I now understand how choice B is the correct answer. But does the comma prior to including not make choice B also wrong? Please advise. I thought that comma + verb-ing modifies the preceding clause and verb-ing without comma modifies preceding noun.

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by e-GMAT » Mon Jul 25, 2011 11:03 am
Your understanding of verb-ing modifiers is on the mark.

But just add this exception to your understanding - including does not really follow the rules of verb-ing modifiers. Whether it is separated by comma or not, it modifies the NOUN (or noun + modifiers) only.

So basically, the thing to keep in mind is that "including" is a versatile NOUN modifier. It modifies NOUN even when it is separated by a comma. And it may modify a noun that is separated by modifiers as well. Here are a few official sentences that exemplify this usage:

Example 1: (GMATPrep)

A study by the Ocean Wildlife Campaign urged states to undertake a number of remedies to reverse a decline in the shark population, which includes the establishment of size limits for shark catches, closing state waters for shark fishing during pupping season, and requiring commercial fishers to have federal shark permits.

Correct Choice D. including establishing size limits for shark catches, closing

Comma + Including modifies "REMEDIES". But look at the modifiers that lie between this modifier and the modified noun.

Example 2: (GMATPrep)
The new image of Stone Age people as systematic hunters of large animals, rather than merely scavenging for meat, have emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany including , three wooden spears that archaeologists believe to be about 400,000 years old.

E)mere scavengers of meat, has emerged from the examination of tools found in Germany, including

Comma + Including modifies "TOOLS". But look at the modifier that lies between this modifier and the modified noun.

Example 3: (OG12 # 120)
A firm that specializes in the analysis of handwriting claims from a one-page writing sample that it can assess more than three hundred personality traits, including enthusiasm, imagination, and ambition. 

Correct Answer (D) to be able, from a one-page writing sample, to assess 

Comma + Including in non-underlined portion of the sentence modifies the closest noun - personality traits.

TakeAway Message - Comma + including does not modify preceding clause (as other comma + verb-ing modifiers do). This expression modifies the preceding noun or noun phrase.

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by eastcoastrocks » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:10 am
Thanks e-GMAT for the detailed explanation of "including modifiers"...This really helps...:)

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by mirantdon » Tue Jul 26, 2011 6:29 am
Thanks e-gmat for the clarifications with good examples

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by RBBmba@2014 » Mon Mar 07, 2016 10:51 pm
@Verbal Experts - could you please let me know whether the following is an ERROR in option E ?

THAT of HIS -- is this construction GRAMMATICALLY viable on GMAT ?

I think,we can't use of - Prepositional phrase + POSSESSIVE together. Right ?

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by RBBmba@2014 » Wed Apr 13, 2016 3:32 am
@Verbal Experts - any update on my above concern ?

Look forward to your thoughts. Much thanks in advance!