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by atulmangal » Mon Jun 20, 2011 11:00 am
Unlike the collective control over labor processes exercised by artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages and the adequate pay that they received for their work, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.


(A) Unlike the collective control over labor processes exercised by artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages and the adequate pay that they received for their work, factory workers in these villages

(B) Unlike artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages

(C) Factory workers in early nineteenth-century French villages, unlike the collective control over labor processes exercised by artisans in these villages and the adequate pay they received for their work,

(D) Collective control over labor processes was exercised by artisans in early-nineteenth century French villages, who also received adequate pay for their work, while that of the factory workers in these villages

(E) While artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for their work, those of factory workers in these villages

The OA given is Op B, see the comparison is okay, but kindly answer is the placement of WHO is correct over here??? see below Op B

Unlike artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages

This kind of issue was discussed earlier and i remember the final verdict was WHO follows touch rule...here WHO logically refers to "artisans" and in that case i think this OA is wrong. Please share your views.

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by cyrwr1 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:01 pm
That is correct.

as early nineteenth-century French Villages is the adjective to artisans.

THink about it like this. Would you say the early nineteenth-century French village artisans? Way more times than not, you would say the former.

The same thing applies for computer engineers of the Silicon Valley in the 20th century. You wouldn't say the 20th century Silicon Valley engineers.

I hope that I helped your confusion. My example isn't the best, just what I had off the top of my head.

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by abhishek.pati » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:47 pm
Who can be written as there is no discrepancy and it clearly modifies the phrase "artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages" written before it.

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by smackmartine » Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:56 pm
Atul,

I would suggest you to stick to what you have learned till now. Do not doubt yourself, that too on the D day. I too feel the OA is incorrect. MGMT never-ever says about any exception on "who". There are some exceptions on "whose"(can modify people or thing) though, but "who" must modify the word (person) after the comma. For your sake, forget you ever saw this sentence. Good luck!!!
IMO this is a better version:

In early nineteenth-century French villages , unlike artisans, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.
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by vikram4689 » Mon Jun 20, 2011 10:39 pm
Yup even i would say that don't press yourself before D-day.

@smackmartine: Placement of modifier (in red) seems to be wrong In early nineteenth-century French villages , unlike artisans, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.
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by bubbliiiiiiii » Tue Jun 21, 2011 12:22 am
While answering the question I picked B on my understanding that who modifies the preceeding noun(persons) or a prepositional phrase containing persons.

@Atul,

ATB for your test tomorrow. :)
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by winniethepooh » Tue Jun 21, 2011 2:28 am
Best of luck, bro!

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by smackmartine » Tue Jun 21, 2011 5:01 am
vikram4689 wrote:Yup even i would say that don't press yourself before D-day.

@smackmartine: Placement of modifier (in red) seems to be wrong In early nineteenth-century French villages , unlike artisans, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.
You are correct. I tried couple of ways to mix and match modifiers , but sentence did not fit properly. If you can provide me with a better version without eliminating any of the words ,please suggest.
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by dv2020 » Tue Jun 21, 2011 7:40 pm
Best of Luck!!!
Don't press yourself before D-day!!!!

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by vikram4689 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 1:00 am
smackmartine wrote:
vikram4689 wrote:Yup even i would say that don't press yourself before D-day.

@smackmartine: Placement of modifier (in red) seems to be wrong In early nineteenth-century French villages , unlike artisans, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.
You are correct. I tried couple of ways to mix and match modifiers , but sentence did not fit properly. If you can provide me with a better version without eliminating any of the words ,please suggest.
This is the best i can think of:
Unlike artisans in early nineteenth-century French villages, who exercised collective control over labor processes and received adequate pay for the work that they produced, factory workers in these villages typically lacked social organization and were underpaid for their services.

Artisans || factory workers as Modifier does not affect ||.
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by amit2k9 » Wed Jun 22, 2011 2:12 am
B it is for correct comparison and usage of relative pronoun who here.
who refers to the artisans (noun)correctly.
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