I've been working hard on completing my verbal prep. CR, however, has been my biggest weakness. (Note. English is my mother tongue).
What are some strategies you may suggest in attacking questions and improving your hit rate? I always read the question stem first, yet do not seem to catch the subtleties in each answer choice.
I do seem to find a pattern in terms of answer choices, namely "irrelevant" information. What are your thoughts?
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As Bacali mentioned it would be good to start reading the argument first, identify the premises and conclusion and then get to the question.What are some strategies you may suggest in attacking questions and improving your hit rate? I always read the question stem first, yet do not seem to catch the subtleties in each answer choice
By the way what prep books are you using for CR?
Personally I found the powerscore gmat critical resoning bible to be good.I have heard the LSAT counterpart from powerscore is also good.It gives you some specific strategies surrounding each question type. There is no magic answer to improve CR but to understand the info given along with utilizing tips and tricks (may be not the answer u were expecting)
What materials are you using to practice specific question types?
Good luck!
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In order to weaken Bacalis conclusion we have to find another CAUSE to explain that jump from 23 to 40.bacali wrote:Well here a little fact for you.
First time I took the GMAT, I would read the question stem first...results....Verbal=23
Second time around...didn't read question stem first....results....verbal=40
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TRUE DAT!cramya wrote:Ok guys that was entertaining! Lets try to help triple5soul any more if possible and that seems to be the subject anyway.
No but in all honesty, DON'T READ THE QUESTION STEM FIRST!!!!
When I read a CR argument, I think to myself...OK that was convincing, WTF that made no sense...Not even close to a convincing argument...Obvious discrepancy...etc.
You take that out if you read the question stem first. Develop your ability to pickout the type of question instead of reading the question stem. It really pays dividends.
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I am currently using OG11 (I also have OG10), MGMAT CR and Kaplan 800. My strengths seemed to be strengthen/weaken questions, otherwise, it seems most of my answer choices are simply careless or choices that are irrelevant.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll give reading the argument first a shot.
Best of luck!
Thanks for the feedback. I'll give reading the argument first a shot.
Best of luck!
Hi,Ok guys that was entertaining! Lets try to help triple5soul any more if possible and that seems to be the subject anyway.
For me I'm having an accuracy of 57% in CR ( time based), I use to get 33%.
This is my frst TIP to double my score, by being in time always:
1- By reading..try to guess what is teh question before you read the actual question !! Why ? because the aim of the CR and the answer is the AGRGUMENT.. if you understand the argument you will get the right answer..So by trying to guess the question you gonna automatically focus on the argument and you will haveit for sure !! So even that your Guess about what will be the question is not true.. by reading tha actual real question you will find your self easy with it !!
now the question is : spending coupl of second .. may be 30 sec in guessing :" what could be the question? Hmmmmm...!!!" is it worthy?? time speaking ..!? my answer is YES believ it or not !!!
2 second tip: focus on your strengh: by running over exrcices you will find that you are guetting always.. for exple: weakening the author conclusion or ..or...( what ever) : you have to focus on thoose kinf of question... in the exam yuo dont have to miss this question even that U sepnd more time on it ( I mean by more time : MAX 15 S more).
3- When doing exercices go 12 by 12...: I read it in teh flash card ; in the actual exam the CR question will be 12 ±1, so practice with this!
Tha's what I have for now.. As I said.. I only have for the moment a precentage of 57%
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here are a few general suggestions and guidelines.
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* for certain CR problem types (most notably Find an Assumption and Draw a Conclusion), you must STICK TO THE CONTENT OF THE PASSAGE. (in contrast, for other problem types, such as 'strengthen the conclusion', you MUST go OUTSIDE of the passage for additional information.)
- this simple observation can be a powerful tool for process of elimination. to wit: imagine that a debate judge has handed you a list of the SPECIFICS that are treated in the passage, and will BUZZ you if you mention anything that doesn't show up on that list of specifics. the thing is: correct answers to 'find the assumption' and 'draw a conclusion' problems WON'T GET BUZZED in this situation, because they stick to the specific points actually contained in the passage. you'd be surprised how much mileage you can get from just eliminating the answer choices that get 'buzzed'.
* if your goal is to WEAKEN an argument, try to identify the ASSUMPTIONS behind the argument, and choose a choice that strikes down one of those assumptions. if all else fails, pick the choice that stays closest to the content of the passage itself (the more "links" you need to connect the answer choice to the passage, the less likely it is to be the correct answer).
* same thing for STRENGTHENING passages. if all else fails, try to pick the answer choice that's MOST DIRECTLY related to the passage - the more degrees of separation, the smaller the choice of being correct.
answer choices that need 2 or more "links" to connect logically to the passage WILL be wrong.
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finally, a word about the mentality that you have to take into reading and processing these passages:
if an argument connects ANY two specifics that aren't literally the same, then the argument requires an assumption that connects / relates those two specifics to one another.
for instance, if a premise talks about drivers who receive speeding tickets, and the conclusion deals with drivers who speed, then you need an assumption that says something about speeders actually receiving speeding tickets.
this is a difficult sort of thing to look for, because you really have to "turn off the common sense module" in your brain. in other words, you have to think like an autistic - if two things are not LITERALLY THE SAME, then you should consider them to be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. in other words, "drivers who receive speeding tickets" and "drivers who speed" should look just as different to you as would "drivers who receive speeding tickets" and "drivers with red hair".
once you learn to think that way, you'll be on your way to a much better CR score.
good luck.
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* for certain CR problem types (most notably Find an Assumption and Draw a Conclusion), you must STICK TO THE CONTENT OF THE PASSAGE. (in contrast, for other problem types, such as 'strengthen the conclusion', you MUST go OUTSIDE of the passage for additional information.)
- this simple observation can be a powerful tool for process of elimination. to wit: imagine that a debate judge has handed you a list of the SPECIFICS that are treated in the passage, and will BUZZ you if you mention anything that doesn't show up on that list of specifics. the thing is: correct answers to 'find the assumption' and 'draw a conclusion' problems WON'T GET BUZZED in this situation, because they stick to the specific points actually contained in the passage. you'd be surprised how much mileage you can get from just eliminating the answer choices that get 'buzzed'.
* if your goal is to WEAKEN an argument, try to identify the ASSUMPTIONS behind the argument, and choose a choice that strikes down one of those assumptions. if all else fails, pick the choice that stays closest to the content of the passage itself (the more "links" you need to connect the answer choice to the passage, the less likely it is to be the correct answer).
* same thing for STRENGTHENING passages. if all else fails, try to pick the answer choice that's MOST DIRECTLY related to the passage - the more degrees of separation, the smaller the choice of being correct.
answer choices that need 2 or more "links" to connect logically to the passage WILL be wrong.
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finally, a word about the mentality that you have to take into reading and processing these passages:
if an argument connects ANY two specifics that aren't literally the same, then the argument requires an assumption that connects / relates those two specifics to one another.
for instance, if a premise talks about drivers who receive speeding tickets, and the conclusion deals with drivers who speed, then you need an assumption that says something about speeders actually receiving speeding tickets.
this is a difficult sort of thing to look for, because you really have to "turn off the common sense module" in your brain. in other words, you have to think like an autistic - if two things are not LITERALLY THE SAME, then you should consider them to be COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. in other words, "drivers who receive speeding tickets" and "drivers who speed" should look just as different to you as would "drivers who receive speeding tickets" and "drivers with red hair".
once you learn to think that way, you'll be on your way to a much better CR score.
good luck.
Ron has been teaching various standardized tests for 20 years.
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more CR strategies pertaining to FIND THE ASSUMPTION and DRAW A CONCUSION problems:
* when you go through critical reasoning passages, you need to be able to sort out IRRELEVANT INFORMATION. there are 2 kinds:
- (a) parts of "conclusions" that really aren't conclusions at all. there's a simple way to tell whether this happens: if something isn't mentioned in the premises, then it can't possibly be part of the conclusion. in other words, the conclusion actually has to come FROM the premises, so anything not in the premises can't be part of the conclusion.
- (b) "bowling pins" or "setup statements": if a passage starts out by telling you some piece of information and then constructs an argument for the sole purpose of proving that statement wrong, then the initial statement (the "bowling pin") doesn't even count as part of the argument.
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when you're looking for an ASSUMPTION or trying to draw a CONCLUSION, remember that those things can NEVER, ever, be more general than the premises you start with. for instance, if a passage talks about weightlifting, you CANNOT have assumptions regarding "exercise" in general - because any other exercise is irrelevant to / out of the scope of the passage.
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remember that assumptions are things that MUST be true. because of this, there's another way that you can attack assumption problems, if necessary:
- REVERSE the assumption in the answer choice, and see if the argument FALLS APART. if it doesn't, then the assumption is not required.
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on ALL critical reasoning questions, but especially on "find the assumption" and "draw a conclusion", you need to be able to do the following 2 things:
- (1) learn to treat all SPECIFICS as objective, judgment-free things. for instance, in problem #V63, "easily" (in choice c) should be treated as would any other mention of an irrelevant specific. in other words, just because "easily" is a common word that's thrown around a lot in conversation doesn't mean you can gloss over it in the answer choice. you should pay absolutely as much attention to it as you would to something like "decisions should be made in blue jeans".
- (2) learn to treat ANY SPECIFICS THAT ARE AT ALL DIFFERENT as COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. in other words, in CR land, there are only two possibilities: (a) two things are exactly the same, or (b) they are completely unrelated without evidence. in CR land, there is no such thing as "similar" or "like each other". so you should get to the point where 2 things such as "people who commit murder" and "people convicted of murder" sound COMPLETELY unrelated, just because they're not exactly the same.
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* if an argument contains a conditional (an "if-then" statement), then any statement for which the IF part is FALSE lies outside the scope of the passage. for instance, if i say "i like redheads", then that's "if she's a redhead, then i'll like her". therefore, any non-redheads are outside the scope of this argument.
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when you draw conclusions, your conclusions have to be PERFECTLY DEDUCTIVE. they CANNOT MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL ASSUMPTIONS, no matter how seemingly trivial.
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you're not allowed to have "vacuously true" statements as conclusions. for instance, in the port blockade problem (og#101), you can deduce from the passage that the blockade won't be successful. therefore, anything starting with "if the blockade is successful..." should be considered out of scope.
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when you draw conclusions, you MUST remember that your conclusions NEED TO STAY DEDUCTIVE. among other things, this means that you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT EXTRAPOLATE, even by a little bit.
- ex: there's one OG problem about fish catch and rainforests. in that problem, you have to limit yourself to ... fish catch and rainforests. you CANNOT generalize to "nature".
* when you go through critical reasoning passages, you need to be able to sort out IRRELEVANT INFORMATION. there are 2 kinds:
- (a) parts of "conclusions" that really aren't conclusions at all. there's a simple way to tell whether this happens: if something isn't mentioned in the premises, then it can't possibly be part of the conclusion. in other words, the conclusion actually has to come FROM the premises, so anything not in the premises can't be part of the conclusion.
- (b) "bowling pins" or "setup statements": if a passage starts out by telling you some piece of information and then constructs an argument for the sole purpose of proving that statement wrong, then the initial statement (the "bowling pin") doesn't even count as part of the argument.
--
when you're looking for an ASSUMPTION or trying to draw a CONCLUSION, remember that those things can NEVER, ever, be more general than the premises you start with. for instance, if a passage talks about weightlifting, you CANNOT have assumptions regarding "exercise" in general - because any other exercise is irrelevant to / out of the scope of the passage.
--
remember that assumptions are things that MUST be true. because of this, there's another way that you can attack assumption problems, if necessary:
- REVERSE the assumption in the answer choice, and see if the argument FALLS APART. if it doesn't, then the assumption is not required.
--
on ALL critical reasoning questions, but especially on "find the assumption" and "draw a conclusion", you need to be able to do the following 2 things:
- (1) learn to treat all SPECIFICS as objective, judgment-free things. for instance, in problem #V63, "easily" (in choice c) should be treated as would any other mention of an irrelevant specific. in other words, just because "easily" is a common word that's thrown around a lot in conversation doesn't mean you can gloss over it in the answer choice. you should pay absolutely as much attention to it as you would to something like "decisions should be made in blue jeans".
- (2) learn to treat ANY SPECIFICS THAT ARE AT ALL DIFFERENT as COMPLETELY DIFFERENT. in other words, in CR land, there are only two possibilities: (a) two things are exactly the same, or (b) they are completely unrelated without evidence. in CR land, there is no such thing as "similar" or "like each other". so you should get to the point where 2 things such as "people who commit murder" and "people convicted of murder" sound COMPLETELY unrelated, just because they're not exactly the same.
--
* if an argument contains a conditional (an "if-then" statement), then any statement for which the IF part is FALSE lies outside the scope of the passage. for instance, if i say "i like redheads", then that's "if she's a redhead, then i'll like her". therefore, any non-redheads are outside the scope of this argument.
--
when you draw conclusions, your conclusions have to be PERFECTLY DEDUCTIVE. they CANNOT MAKE ANY ADDITIONAL ASSUMPTIONS, no matter how seemingly trivial.
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you're not allowed to have "vacuously true" statements as conclusions. for instance, in the port blockade problem (og#101), you can deduce from the passage that the blockade won't be successful. therefore, anything starting with "if the blockade is successful..." should be considered out of scope.
--
when you draw conclusions, you MUST remember that your conclusions NEED TO STAY DEDUCTIVE. among other things, this means that you ABSOLUTELY CANNOT EXTRAPOLATE, even by a little bit.
- ex: there's one OG problem about fish catch and rainforests. in that problem, you have to limit yourself to ... fish catch and rainforests. you CANNOT generalize to "nature".
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Thanks Ron...This was an interesting post to read, especially after the last 3 days of struggle I have gone through doing almost all CR problems from the OG and VR books.
The ones in OG diagnostic test were brutal though. For most of them, I could not understand why a particular answer was right even after reading the explanation !!! I gotta improve a lot.....
Any strategies on Resolve the Paradox type since that is the next important type after the major ones ?
Btw, is it true that the passages from the VR book seem so easy and the ones from OG are so difficult to comprehend ? Or is it just my feeling ??
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The ones in OG diagnostic test were brutal though. For most of them, I could not understand why a particular answer was right even after reading the explanation !!! I gotta improve a lot.....
Any strategies on Resolve the Paradox type since that is the next important type after the major ones ?
Btw, is it true that the passages from the VR book seem so easy and the ones from OG are so difficult to comprehend ? Or is it just my feeling ??
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triple5soul,
CR is my weakest area. As bacali suggested, Powerscore Bible is one of the best ways to study for it. I'm doing the theory from it and problems from OG. I have seen good improvements. Powerscore will help you identify patterns in answer choices which once you know will help you to move forward in a fast and confident way. I'm moving slowly through the book and taking notes. I also have MGMAT CR which I plan to come back to if I have time. While solving OG problems also study why wrong answers are wrong.
Hope that helps !
CR is my weakest area. As bacali suggested, Powerscore Bible is one of the best ways to study for it. I'm doing the theory from it and problems from OG. I have seen good improvements. Powerscore will help you identify patterns in answer choices which once you know will help you to move forward in a fast and confident way. I'm moving slowly through the book and taking notes. I also have MGMAT CR which I plan to come back to if I have time. While solving OG problems also study why wrong answers are wrong.
Hope that helps !
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the generally accepted consensus is that the yellow o.g. has a much wider range of difficulty - for both the quant and the verbal - than does the purple verbal supplement.sonu_thekool wrote:Btw, is it true that the passages from the VR book seem so easy and the ones from OG are so difficult to comprehend ? Or is it just my feeling ??
so, regarding the difficult problems, you may be right. but it's probably also the case that the yellow o.g. contains a great deal more easy problems, too; you just may not notice those.
why don't you post a couple of the ones you found more difficult?Any strategies on Resolve the Paradox type since that is the next important type after the major ones ?
it's much easier to get takeaways / strategy points from actual problems than from hand-waving generalities.
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