If i focus on CR + RC then how much score (outof 60)i can expect
i m very weak in SC
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Kasia@EconomistGMAT
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It is almost impossible to assess how many points you can gain if you focus on only two parts of the verbal section. Questions can be of different difficulty and they can give you varied numbers of points.
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I have to agree with Kasia here -- while I understand that SC may be your weakest part... you need a plan to get better. Even if you only improve by 25% -- well, then you are a lot better off than you were originally.Kasia@EconomistGMAT wrote:It is almost impossible to assess how many points you can gain if you focus on only two parts of the verbal section. Questions can be of different difficulty and they can give you varied numbers of points.
You WILL NOT get a great score on verbal if you simply ignore the SC section.
Here's an article that may help you...
https://www.manhattangmat.com/articles/GMATprep-SC.cfm
Hope this helps.
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First, there has been a lengthy discussion of this and the top score in each section is really 51, not 60. Secondly, on the verbal section a 45 is the 99th percentile. So there is no need to score a 60 or even a 51, a 40 would be considered a GREAT score, since that is the 89th percentile.
So, the way that the scoring works is that if you ignore sentence correction (which you say that you are weak in) this will impact the actual questions that you receive for CR and RC. You see the test adapts by section so that if you miss lots of SC questions the computer will underestimate your CR and RC abilities and you will be limited in the difficulty that you can see on those sections.
I will go so far as to say that if you do not improve your SC and if it is well below the average, you should not study the toughest CR and RC because you will not see those. HOWEVER, if you can improve the sentence correction and get it at least to an average state then you will be able to see the harder CR and RC and get those right and get credit for them!
So, the way that the scoring works is that if you ignore sentence correction (which you say that you are weak in) this will impact the actual questions that you receive for CR and RC. You see the test adapts by section so that if you miss lots of SC questions the computer will underestimate your CR and RC abilities and you will be limited in the difficulty that you can see on those sections.
I will go so far as to say that if you do not improve your SC and if it is well below the average, you should not study the toughest CR and RC because you will not see those. HOWEVER, if you can improve the sentence correction and get it at least to an average state then you will be able to see the harder CR and RC and get those right and get credit for them!
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Here are a couple of resources to help you with sentence correction.
Here is great video from Veritas Legend, Brian Galvin: https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2013/02/ ... on-mistake
Here is an article about the very basic idea behind sentence correction:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/sentence-cor ... 69595.html
Here is an article that tells you what you really want from a correct answer on sentence correction: https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2012/10/ ... correction
And here is a recent SC posting from the Veritas Prep Blog: https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/02 ... orrection/
I think that you will find that sentence correction is doable. It is not all about grammar...although some grammar is required!
Here is great video from Veritas Legend, Brian Galvin: https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2013/02/ ... on-mistake
Here is an article about the very basic idea behind sentence correction:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/sentence-cor ... 69595.html
Here is an article that tells you what you really want from a correct answer on sentence correction: https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2012/10/ ... correction
And here is a recent SC posting from the Veritas Prep Blog: https://www.veritasprep.com/blog/2013/02 ... orrection/
I think that you will find that sentence correction is doable. It is not all about grammar...although some grammar is required!
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David,
What is the best way to approach Sentence correction prep? I wrote the GMAT yesterday, and scored a V41, I feel that what is holding me back in verbal is SC (Corroborated by Mock analysis)..I average about 3-4 incorrect questions in SC per test (Fairly consistent across the board, be it official or non official tests). Since i have decided to retake the test in a few months (because of my quant score) i will look to maintain my current position, while spending a bit of time to better prepare myself for SC. I read the MGMAT SC guide, and practiced OG (OG13, OGVerbal). I usually get 100% accuracy in CR, and would like to do similarly well in SC as i think it should be easier to get that type of accuracy in SC (which is based on clear rules) as compared to CR. Could you suggest, a better way to study GMAT Grammer, i would really like to spend time to improve SC (although 80% of my prep will be quant).
What is the best way to approach Sentence correction prep? I wrote the GMAT yesterday, and scored a V41, I feel that what is holding me back in verbal is SC (Corroborated by Mock analysis)..I average about 3-4 incorrect questions in SC per test (Fairly consistent across the board, be it official or non official tests). Since i have decided to retake the test in a few months (because of my quant score) i will look to maintain my current position, while spending a bit of time to better prepare myself for SC. I read the MGMAT SC guide, and practiced OG (OG13, OGVerbal). I usually get 100% accuracy in CR, and would like to do similarly well in SC as i think it should be easier to get that type of accuracy in SC (which is based on clear rules) as compared to CR. Could you suggest, a better way to study GMAT Grammer, i would really like to spend time to improve SC (although 80% of my prep will be quant).
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Vom -- A few thoughts for you. Do you always stumble on the same types of SC questions? Certain topics? Long problems, short problems, etc? You see where I am going, right? You need to identify what's causing you your problems and focus there!vomhorizon wrote:David,
What is the best way to approach Sentence correction prep? I wrote the GMAT yesterday, and scored a V41, I feel that what is holding me back in verbal is SC (Corroborated by Mock analysis)..I average about 3-4 incorrect questions in SC per test (Fairly consistent across the board, be it official or non official tests). Since i have decided to retake the test in a few months (because of my quant score) i will look to maintain my current position, while spending a bit of time to better prepare myself for SC. I read the MGMAT SC guide, and practiced OG (OG13, OGVerbal). I usually get 100% accuracy in CR, and would like to do similarly well in SC as i think it should be easier to get that type of accuracy in SC (which is based on clear rules) as compared to CR. Could you suggest, a better way to study GMAT Grammer, i would really like to spend time to improve SC (although 80% of my prep will be quant).
A few links with some more thoughts:
https://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2010/06/ ... on-problem
https://www.manhattangmat.com/articles/GMATprep-SC.cfm
Give me more detail here so I can help with more thoughts.
Thanks.
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There is no clear pattern, in my wrong answers. When i started taking CAT's (MGMAT 1 & 2) i got a couple of Modifier questions wrong. I then concentrated on That aspect, and in the latter half of my Mock tests, i was not bothered by Questions that test modifiers. I know for certain, that i have issues with IDIOMS, because i have relied TOO MUCH on using my ear, rather then memorizing some of the trickier ones, however no other pattern seems to emerge from my analysis (I may get Parrelelism questions wrong, in one test, and get modifier questions wrong in another, while getting both categories right in yet another). I am looking to start from scratch and this time, Go deep into each and every topic as i am not on a deadline.
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If you've got the time, I think that's a good approach. The thing about SC is that as the questions get harder, generally, it becomes more difficult to 'categorize' them as just being one 'type' of problem.vomhorizon wrote:There is no clear pattern, in my wrong answers. When i started taking CAT's (MGMAT 1 & 2) i got a couple of Modifier questions wrong. I then concentrated on That aspect, and in the latter half of my Mock tests, i was not bothered by Questions that test modifiers. I know for certain, that i have issues with IDIOMS, because i have relied TOO MUCH on using my ear, rather then memorizing some of the trickier ones, however no other pattern seems to emerge from my analysis (I may get Parrelelism questions wrong, in one test, and get modifier questions wrong in another, while getting both categories right in yet another). I am looking to start from scratch and this time, Go deep into each and every topic as i am not on a deadline.
When I teach my students about SC, I often use the analogy of buying an empty tool box. Any craftsman knows that he needs a variety of different tools to put in that tool box, but when he shows up at a work-site, he might not be entirely sure as to which tools he's going to need for that particular project. He 'hopes' that he's got enough coverage with the tools that he does have in his toolbox to get the job done.
In many respects, that's how you can think about SC. You never know exactly which tools you might need -- but you want to make that tool box as comprehensive as possible.
Make sense?
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