4GMAT - SC13

This topic has expert replies
Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:16 am
Thanked: 4 times
GMAT Score:700

4GMAT - SC13

by samarpan_bschool » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:44 pm
The introductory maths course is worth four credits, but the philosophy course is worth only two.

a. but the philosophy course
b. while the course in philosophy
c. whereas the philosophy course
d. while that of philosophy
e. and the course of philosophy

I dont agree with the OA given the worksheet though!

[spoiler]OA:D[/spoiler]

Source: 4GMAT
Last edited by samarpan_bschool on Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:05 am, edited 2 times in total.

Legendary Member
Posts: 2326
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:54 am
Thanked: 173 times
Followed by:2 members
GMAT Score:710

by gmatmachoman » Mon Feb 28, 2011 9:47 pm
IMO C

Comparision is made between maths course Vs the philosophy course. "whereas" is a conjuction rightly used.

@sam..plz post ur OA for ye previous SC..they r really good!!

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:16 am
Thanked: 4 times
GMAT Score:700

by samarpan_bschool » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:03 pm
gmatmachoman wrote:IMO C

Comparision is made between maths course Vs the philosophy course. "whereas" is a conjuction rightly used.

@sam..plz post ur OA for ye previous SC..they r really good!!
You are right in that comparison(contrast) is made between maths vs. philosophy. However IMO 'whereas (or) but' will serve the purpose.

In fact, the OA is neither C nor A! Any comments?

Legendary Member
Posts: 1574
Joined: Fri Jan 28, 2011 2:52 am
Thanked: 88 times
Followed by:13 members

by aspirant2011 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:10 pm
i am confused bw B and E but i would go with B option....................wats the OA?

i rejected A and C because they are sounding transition and we dont need transition in this sentence.
D is wrong because of the use of "that" as that seems to point to worth but it would cause redundancy.


ur sc's are really good. From where are u preparing?

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 165
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:33 pm
Location: Pune, India
Thanked: 16 times
Followed by:1 members

by tetura84 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:50 pm
samarpan_bschool wrote:The introductory maths course is worth four credits, but the philosophy course is worth only two.

a. but the philosophy course
b. while the course in philosophy
c. whereas the philosophy course
d. while that of philosophy
e. and the course of philosophy

I dont agree with the OA given the worksheet though!

[spoiler]OA: After some discussion![/spoiler]

Source: 4GMAT
Tricky one, love it.
Here, what I think is, comparison is between, credits in Maths course VS credits in Phil course.
Since, in the non underline portion does not mention the credits, we need 'that' to refer to 'credits'.
IMO D.
But, I think [spoiler]while that of philosophy course [/spoiler]would be more appropriate.
78 clicks can change my life !

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:16 am
Thanked: 4 times
GMAT Score:700

by samarpan_bschool » Mon Feb 28, 2011 10:58 pm
tetura84 wrote: Tricky one, love it.
Here, what I think is, comparison is between, credits in Maths course VS credits in Phil course.
Since, in the non underline portion does not mention the credits, we need 'that' to refer to 'credits'.
IMO D.
But, I think [spoiler]while that of philosophy course [/spoiler]would be more appropriate.
How do you determine which one - credit or maths / philosophy - is compared?

To your point of 'credit not being mentioned' in the non underlined portion, isn't that 'two' refers to 'two credits' and NOT just two? I think 'two (credits)' is elided.

Thoughts?

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 165
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2011 7:33 pm
Location: Pune, India
Thanked: 16 times
Followed by:1 members

by tetura84 » Mon Feb 28, 2011 11:12 pm
samarpan_bschool wrote: How do you determine which one - credit or maths / philosophy - is compared?

To your point of 'credit not being mentioned' in the non underlined portion, isn't that 'two' refers to 'two credits' and NOT just two? I think 'two (credits)' is elided.

Thoughts?
Okay, before I start, want to say, this is completely my analysis, comments are most welcome :)

We have a COMMA + but = means, this is coordinating conjunction, each of the clauses must stand seperately.
Now read the 2nd clause, "the philosophy course is worth only two" = it is not clear only two of what.
So "credit" is needed.
In all the choices, I see COMMA+coordinating conjunction, so A, B, C & E is out in this same logic.
In D, that mentions "credit"
78 clicks can change my life !

Legendary Member
Posts: 2326
Joined: Mon Jul 28, 2008 3:54 am
Thanked: 173 times
Followed by:2 members
GMAT Score:710

by gmatmachoman » Tue Mar 01, 2011 12:52 am
@Sam,

Plz take my words with a pinch of salt : Prepping from our local desi stuff will do no good but more harm than better.!!

Now that the book says D is the OA. I doubt if the proper comparison is made.

Please talk to Ron for expert comments.

And that we don't have Testluv & Stacey for sharing gyan too

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:16 am
Thanked: 4 times
GMAT Score:700

by samarpan_bschool » Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:04 am
gmatmachoman wrote:@Sam,

Plz take my words with a pinch of salt : Prepping from our local desi stuff will do no good but more harm than better.!!

Now that the book says D is the OA. I doubt if the proper comparison is made.

Please talk to Ron for expert comments.

And that we don't have Testluv & Stacey for sharing gyan too
Thanks for putting your thoughts across! Same sentiments here. I have PM'ed forum experts to take a look at the questions and advice.

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 2193
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2010 6:30 pm
Location: Vermont and Boston, MA
Thanked: 1186 times
Followed by:512 members
GMAT Score:770

by David@VeritasPrep » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:17 am
Here are my thoughts, interested to hear from other experts.

First of all no official GMAT question would say "The introductory maths course" it would say "The introductory math course" I know that this is a small point but it is a clue that this may not be along the lines of the official GMAT questions. In America the plural for "math" is "math." When I saw that I would look for a second instance of the use of non-American English and then I would look for a different source of practice questions.

Next let me say that D cannot be the correct answer to a GMAT question. "The introductory maths course is worth four credits, while that of philosophy is worth only two." This cannot be correct. Is "that of" meant to refer back to course? Remember that sentence correction is a matter of comparison and there are multiple answer choices that are superior to this one.

I agree that "whereas" and "but" can each be used. So there is not enough difference between those choices. This is not a good question. A and C seem to both be okay. The official answer (D) is probably the worst choice here.
Veritas Prep | GMAT Instructor

Veritas Prep Reviews
Save $100 off any live Veritas Prep GMAT Course

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 109
Joined: Mon Jan 10, 2011 3:05 am
Thanked: 8 times
Followed by:7 members
GMAT Score:760

by nikhilsrl » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:21 am
Thanks David for the clarification. Infact I will go with A since it appears simpler compared to C.

Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Posts: 106
Joined: Thu Dec 31, 2009 3:16 am
Thanked: 4 times
GMAT Score:700

by samarpan_bschool » Tue Mar 01, 2011 6:30 am
Thanks David

One quick doubt - I want to make sure that I understand the usage of 'that' correct.

If the question were,

(i) The credits for Math is two while those for Philosophy is four. Correct?

(i) The credit for Math is two while that for Philosophy is four. Correct?

Thanks

User avatar
GMAT Instructor
Posts: 15539
Joined: Tue May 25, 2010 12:04 pm
Location: New York, NY
Thanked: 13060 times
Followed by:1906 members
GMAT Score:790

by GMATGuruNY » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:15 am
samarpan_bschool wrote:The introductory maths course is worth four credits, but the philosophy course is worth only two.

a. but the philosophy course
b. while the course in philosophy
c. whereas the philosophy course
d. while that of philosophy
e. and the course of philosophy

I dont agree with the OA given the worksheet though!

[spoiler]OA:D[/spoiler]

Source: 4GMAT
In D, even if the pronoun that refers to course -- and the antecedent for that is far from clear -- the idiom is incorrect. The course of philosophy means the progression of philosophy. The correct idiom for the SC above would be either a course in philosophy or a course on philosophy.

How can you learn the correct idioms if you use a source that teaches them incorrectly?
Private tutor exclusively for the GMAT and GRE, with over 20 years of experience.
Followed here and elsewhere by over 1900 test-takers.
I have worked with students based in the US, Australia, Taiwan, China, Tajikistan, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia -- a long list of countries.
My students have been admitted to HBS, CBS, Tuck, Yale, Stern, Fuqua -- a long list of top programs.

As a tutor, I don't simply teach you how I would approach problems.
I unlock the best way for YOU to solve problems.

For more information, please email me (Mitch Hunt) at [email protected].
Student Review #1
Student Review #2
Student Review #3