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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:37 pm    Post subject: Triangles Reply with quote

The sum of the 2 shortest sides of any triangle cannot be greater than the longest side correct? This is how I came up with none for this problem correct?

If two sides of a triangle have lengths 2 and 5, which of the following could be the perimeter of the triangle?

a.9
b.15
c.19
none.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 7:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Triangles Reply with quote

vladmire wrote:
The sum of the 2 shortest sides of any triangle cannot be greater than the longest side correct? This is how I came up with none for this problem correct?

If two sides of a triangle have lengths 2 and 5, which of the following could be the perimeter of the triangle?

a.9
b.15
c.19
none.


sum of any 2 sides are GREATER than 3rd side.

a. 9-7= 2
b. 15-7 = 8
c. 19-7 = 11
I would pick none, but for sum of 2 > 3rd

think of 3-4-5 right triangle. by your logic, 3+4 has to be less than 5... so does that mean right triangle is not a real triangle?
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Triangles Reply with quote

hwiya320 wrote:

sum of any 2 sides are GREATER than 3rd side.


yep.

this is actually an offshoot of something you probably learned sometime around first grade:
the shortest path from one point to another is a straight line (segment).

if you draw a triangle, then notice that each side of the triangle is a straight path from one vertex to another.
the other 2 sides, taken together, are a non-straight path between the same two vertices.
therefore, the other 2 sides are longer than the chosen side.
that is all.

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btw, there's another, equally useful, inequality that you should also know about triangles:

THIRD SIDE INEQUALITY
if you KNOW two sides of a triangle, then
DIFFERENCE < third side < SUM

this can be derived directly from the triangle inequality (the thing discussed above), but it's worth memorizing separately; the last thing you want to do on a 2-minute problem is start deriving new rules.

in this problem, this rule immediately yields
5 - 2 < third side < 5 + 2
3 < third side < 7
10 < perimeter < 14 (add 7 to both sides)
done.

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