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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 10:14 am    Post subject: SC1 Reply with quote

Although the manager agreed to a more flexible work schedule, he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do.

(A) he said that it must be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is
(B) he said it had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor knows what everyone is
(C) he said that they would have to post the assignments on the bulletin board so that management and labor knew what everyone was
(D) he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone was
(E) saying that the schedule had to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone had been

The answer is A.

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PostPosted: Thu May 15, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

B out because of 'had' as posting will happen after he agreed
C has pronoun issue "they"
D out because have is used for singular verb schedule
E out - what is "saying" modifying
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PostPosted: Fri May 16, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

netigen wrote:
B out because of 'had' as posting will happen after he agreed
C has pronoun issue "they"
D out because have is used for singular verb schedule
E out - what is "saying" modifying


the past tense in choice b is acceptable, as long as the rest of the verbs in the sentence are consistent with it. the problem isn't so much 'had' by itself, but, rather, the inconsistency between 'had' and 'is'.
however,
the problem that should be MUCH MORE OBVIOUS in choice (b) is the mismatch between the compound subject 'both management and labor' and the singular verb 'knows'. the compound subject is plural, and so it requires a plural verb.

your explanations for choices (c) and (e) are perfect. on choice (e), you can point out an even stronger fact: choice (e) isn't a sentence at all. (the entire thing would constitute a giant modifier.)

the only thing that's actually mistaken in these explanations is choice (d), because the verb is 'would have' - which is perfectly good as either a singular or a plural verb ('would', like almost all other past-tense forms in english, doesn't conjugate).
in fact, both choices (a) and (d) are legitimate sentences.
- both sets of verb tenses are mutually consistent - and the non-underlined context provides no 'anchor points' to help us resolve what the verb tenses should be, so either set of verb tenses is fine
- if you have to strike one of the choices, then strike (d) and go with (a), for reasons of concision.
- i'm assuming this isn't a gmatprep problem...? after all, when official problems are predicated on concision, the differences between the concise and non-concise versions are normally more stark than the differences between (a) and (d) here.

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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2008 11:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

B - subject verb error 'management and labor knows'
C - pronoun error. who are 'they'
D - certian vs uncertain error. In the original sentence author says 'must be' where as in this sentence use of 'would' reflect uncertainity. Remember certain vs uncertain rule from Manhatten SC book. Another problem with this sentence is the tense in clause 'what everyone was assignmend to do'. Concision is also a problem in this sentence.
E - sentence fragement


A - correct one
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PostPosted: Sun May 18, 2008 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

s_raizada wrote:
In the original sentence author says 'must be' where as in this sentence use of 'would' reflect uncertainity. Remember certain vs uncertain rule from Manhatten SC book.


you're correct that the use of 'would', in certain contexts, can signal uncertainty. however, the uncertainty factor is generally limited to those cases in which 'would' indicates a hypothetical - usually when it's paired with an 'if' clause.

in this case, the use of 'would' is of a different variety: 'would' is also the past tense of 'will'. therefore, the sentence
he said/says that the schedule will have to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor will know what everyone is assigned to do
is legitimately rendered into the past tense as
he said that the schedule would have to be posted on the bulletin board so that both management and labor would know what everyone was assigned to do
note that nothing in either of these sentences is hypothetical, and each of them is internally consistent.
therefore, there are only two really good reasons to choose (a) over (d):
1) it's more concise
2) it's never wise to alter the meaning of the original sentence (i.e., if the original is rendered in the present tense, and there's no good reason to change it into the past tense, then it should be left in the present tense).
#2 is actually a better reason than #1, because clarity / preservation of meaning ranks higher than concision in the SC hierarchy.

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