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by Mo2men » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:38 am
Is a + b < c - d?

(1) a + b < c
(2) a + b < -d

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by DavidG@VeritasPrep » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:54 am
Mo2men wrote:Is a + b < c - d?

(1) a + b < c
(2) a + b < -d
Each statement alone is clearly not sufficient. S1 tells us nothing about d and S2 tells us nothing about c. Together, we can sum the inequalities to get
2(a + b) < c- d or a + b < (c - d)/2.

Case 1: c-d = 2 and a + b = .5. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = 2/2 = 1, and .5 <1.) .5 is less than 2, so we get a YES to the original question.

Case 2: c-d = - 2 and a + b = -1.5. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = -2/2 = -1, and -1.5 <-1.) -1.5 is not less than -2, so we get a NO to the original question.

Because we can get a YES or a NO to the original question, the statements together are not sufficient, and the answer is E
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by Mo2men » Tue Feb 07, 2017 4:57 am
DavidG@VeritasPrep wrote:
Mo2men wrote:Is a + b < c - d?

(1) a + b < c
(2) a + b < -d
Each statement alone is clearly not sufficient. S1 tells nothing about d and S2 tells us nothing about c. Together, we can sum the inequalities to get
2(a + b) > c- d or a + b > (c - d)/2.

Case 1: c-d = 2 and a + b = 1.5. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = 2/2 = 1, and 1.5 >1.) 1.5 is not greater than 2, so we get a NO to the original question.

Case 2: c-d = 2 and a + b = 10. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = 2/2 = 1, and 10 >1.) 10 is greater than 2, so we get a YES to the original question.

Because we can get a YES or a NO to the original question, the statements together are not sufficient, and the answer is E
Why sign is reversed? It should be in same direction while adding two inequalities.

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by DavidG@VeritasPrep » Tue Feb 07, 2017 5:39 am
Why sign is reversed? It should be in same direction while adding two inequalities.
Because I have a small child who doesn't sleep well :)

The sign doesn't flip. I'll edit that post.
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by Mo2men » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:16 am
DavidG@VeritasPrep wrote:
Mo2men wrote:Is a + b < c - d?

(1) a + b < c
(2) a + b < -d
Each statement alone is clearly not sufficient. S1 tells us nothing about d and S2 tells us nothing about c. Together, we can sum the inequalities to get
2(a + b) < c- d or a + b < (c - d)/2.

Case 1: c-d = 2 and a + b = .5. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = 2/2 = 1, and .5 <1.) .5 is not greater than 2, so we get a NO to the original question.

Case 2: c-d = - 2 and a + b = -1.5. (We can test these numbers because (c-d)/2 = -2/2 = -1, and -1.5 <-1.) -1.5 is greater than -2, so we get a YES to the original question.

Because we can get a YES or a NO to the original question, the statements together are not sufficient, and the answer is E
Dear David,

Thanks for your response.

It seems your baby did not sleep for long time :)

While you choose numbers and answer is E, the case 1 & case 2 answers to original questions should be reversed too.

a+b < c-d

In case 1 : c-d = 2 & a + b = 0.5......satisfying the condition correctly.so we get a YES to the original question.

In case 2 : c-d = -2 & a + b = -1.5......satisfying the condition correctly.so we get a NO to the original question.

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by [email protected] » Tue Feb 07, 2017 11:17 am
Hi Mo2men,

When dealing with these types of multiple variable inequality-based questions, it's worth noting that there are no restrictions on what the individual variables can be, so you have to think about more than just the obvious possibilities (re: positive integers). Many Test Takers would simply look at the prompt - and not do any work - and assume that the answer is C. However, a bit more work is needed...

We're asked if (A+B) is less than (C - D). This is a YES/NO question.

1) A + B < C

This tells us nothing about the value of D.
Fact 1 is INSUFFICIENT

2) A + B < -D

This tells us nothing about the value of C.
Fact 2 is INSUFFICIENT

Combined you should consider how "close" the values could be to one another and the fact that the variables could be NEGATIVE numbers...

IF....
A = -1
B = -1
C = -1
D = 0
Then (-2) IS less than (-1) and the answer to the question is YES

IF....
A = -1
B = -1
C = -1
D = 1
Then (-2) is NOT less than (-2) and the answer to the question is NO
Combined, INSUFFICIENT

Final Answer: E

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by DavidG@VeritasPrep » Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:57 pm
It seems your baby did not sleep for long time Smile

While you choose numbers and answer is E, the case 1 & case 2 answers to original questions should be reversed too.
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by Jay@ManhattanReview » Mon Feb 13, 2017 9:50 pm
Mo2men wrote:Is a + b < c - d?

(1) a + b < c
(2) a + b < -d
Hi Mo2men,

We see that each statement alone is clearly not sufficient.

S1 tells us nothing about d and S2 tells us nothing about c.

Together, we can sum the inequalities: 2(a + b) < c- d

We see that DOUBLE OF A NUMBER [2(a+b)] is less than ANOTHER NUMBER (c -d), thus the first NUMBER (a+b) would be less than the second NUMBER (c -d). This is true if we are dealing with positive numbers.

However, it's not necessarily true if the above NUMBERS are negatives. Insufficient.

The correct answer: E

Hope this helps!

Relevant book: Manhattan Review GMAT Data Sufficiency Guide

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by Matt@VeritasPrep » Fri Mar 03, 2017 3:57 am
DavidG@VeritasPrep wrote:
It seems your baby did not sleep for long time Smile

While you choose numbers and answer is E, the case 1 & case 2 answers to original questions should be reversed too.
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