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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:09 pm    Post subject: PR - Geo Question - Need help Reply with quote

Please help with this one

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO D
From I
first get AB--then r can be found
from II
again area, r can be found
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In (B) I don't understand how can you find r by just knowing the area of the triangle. All we know is:

1. Triangle is isosceles with two sides = r
2. Area of the triangle
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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is how you get r by knowing AD:

Draw a line from A to O. Now we have triangle AOD.

We know AO is r, OD is (r-2), and AD is 6.

You can see we could solve for r using the Pythagorean theorum. Thus, knowing AD is sufficient to solve for r.

Of course, now we could solve for circumference because it is 2pir.

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PostPosted: Sat May 10, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tatiana, that solves for A, how about the option B? In your opinion, is B sufficient to solve for r? If yes, then how?

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Here is how you get r by knowing AD:

Draw a line from A to O. Now we have triangle AOD.

We know AO is r, OD is (r-2), and AD is 6.

You can see we could solve for r using the Pythagorean theorum. Thus, knowing AD is sufficient to solve for r.

Of course, now we could solve for circumference because it is 2pir.

Hope that helped,

Tatiana
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 10:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

From 2:

Area of triangle 1/2 *base*alt=50

here base=alt=radius of traingle


so 1/2r^2=50
r=10
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 1:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are assuming the triangle is a right angle triangle. The question doesn't say that its a right angle triangle. This is of course my read on the question and I may be wrong hence need to understand why everyone is interpreting the triangle to be right angled.

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From 2:

Area of triangle 1/2 *base*alt=50

here base=alt=radius of traingle


so 1/2r^2=50
r=10
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 2:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

amitansu wrote:
From 2:

Area of triangle 1/2 *base*alt=50

here base=alt=radius of traingle


so 1/2r^2=50
r=10


I am confused, how exactly did you reach the conclusion that base = alt=radius. This would be true only if OBC is a isosceles right angle triangle. The question gives no indication of this. I believe the answer should be A, the solution for which is already provided.
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PostPosted: Sun May 11, 2008 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BTW the OA by PR for this is D. Explanation assumes the tirangle to the right angled. Anyone know how to give feedback to PR about this error.

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cant we use the formula for Isosceles Triangle ??

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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 1:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, there could be a misprint in book.Right angle has to be assumed here.But not necessarily isoseceles triangle !!

Because, for triangle OBC it shows the two sides are nothing but radii.

So the formula can be reduced to 1/2 alt*base=50
=> 1/2*r*r=50
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PostPosted: Mon May 12, 2008 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandeep, the formula you have posted can not be used because one variable in the formula is the base of the triangle and the other is one of the equal sides.

Amit, I also think this is an error on part of PR. This problem is from one of their tests and not from the book.
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