• Economist Test Prep
    Free Trial & Practice Exam
    BEAT THE GMAT EXCLUSIVE

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Economist Test Prep
  • Kaplan Test Prep
    Free Practice Test & Review
    How would you score if you took the GMAT

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Kaplan Test Prep
  • Varsity Tutors
    Award-winning private GMAT tutoring
    Register now and save up to $200

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Varsity Tutors
  • e-gmat Exclusive Offer
    Get 300+ Practice Questions
    25 Video lessons and 6 Webinars for FREE

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    e-gmat Exclusive Offer
  • Magoosh
    Magoosh
    Study with Magoosh GMAT prep

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Magoosh
  • Target Test Prep
    5-Day Free Trial
    5-day free, full-access trial TTP Quant

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Target Test Prep
  • Veritas Prep
    Free Veritas GMAT Class
    Experience Lesson 1 Live Free

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    Veritas Prep
  • EMPOWERgmat Slider
    1 Hour Free
    BEAT THE GMAT EXCLUSIVE

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    EMPOWERgmat Slider
  • PrepScholar GMAT
    5 Day FREE Trial
    Study Smarter, Not Harder

    Available with Beat the GMAT members only code

    MORE DETAILS
    PrepScholar GMAT

Organizing your scratch board on test day

This topic has 7 expert replies and 10 member replies
Goto page
  • 1,
  • 2
Next
caitlinbadeaux Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
15 Aug 2012
Posted:
7 messages

Organizing your scratch board on test day

Post Tue Nov 06, 2012 1:35 pm
What is the best way to organize your scratch board on test day in order to track your time and keep your notes neat? Specifically for Quant. I've been doing 8 questions (boxes) per page in 15 min increments, but am not sure if this is the correct. For example, the first page starts at 75 min with 8 boxes, the next page starts at 60 min with 8 boxes, etc.

What should your timing be for Verbal - I usually don't use a whole space but would like to see if anyone has any ideas for organizing scratch boards to keep track of Verbal timing.

Thanks!

Need free GMAT or MBA advice from an expert? Register for Beat The GMAT now and post your question in these forums!

GMAT/MBA Expert

Jim@StratusPrep MBA Admissions Consultant
Joined
11 Nov 2011
Posted:
2278 messages
Followed by:
265 members
Thanked:
659 times
GMAT Score:
770
Post Wed Nov 07, 2012 8:12 am
For quant I write these numbers down

35 71
30 61
25 51
20 41
15 31
10 21
5 11

The left column is the question number you are on and the right is the time you should have left.

For verbal it looks like this:

40 73
35 64
30 55
25 46
20 37
15 28
10 19
5 10

This should help yo manage you time.

_________________
GMAT Answers provides a world class adaptive learning platform.
-- Push button course navigation to simplify planning
-- Daily assignments to fit your exam timeline
-- Organized review that is tailored based on your abiility
-- 1,000s of unique GMAT questions
-- 100s of handwritten 'digital flip books' for OG questions
-- 100% Free Trial and less than $20 per month after.
-- Free GMAT Quantitative Review

Thanked by: caitlinbadeaux, aman88
caitlinbadeaux Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
15 Aug 2012
Posted:
7 messages
Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 7:09 am
Hi Jim,

This timing really helps - thanks a lot.

Specifically though, how would you organize your scratch board for Quant? As in how many questions per page and how much time per page etc. It would just be hard to set up your paper with only 5 questions per sheet with this time frame.

Please let me know - I really struggled on this last time.

Thanks

vomhorizon Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Joined
20 Aug 2012
Posted:
194 messages
Followed by:
8 members
Thanked:
26 times
Test Date:
Mid. February 2013
Target GMAT Score:
700+
GMAT Score:
730
Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 8:47 am
Given that we can ask for as many scratch boards as we want, do we really need to bother about how many questions per page etc?

_________________
"When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you’ll be successful.” - Eric Thomas

GMAT/MBA Expert

OfficialGMAT Official Company Rep
Joined
12 Jun 2012
Posted:
620 messages
Followed by:
251 members
Thanked:
143 times
GMAT Score:
800
Post Tue Nov 13, 2012 1:25 pm
Hello, vomhorizon! It sounds like you are going to be very well prepared! I asked our GMAT team, and we do not have any best practices for that, but it sounds like you are getting some good advice. You may want to ask this question on the main board as well.

Good luck!

_________________
Leah
Official GMAC Representative

Have a question about customer service issues, GMAT exam policies, or GMAT exam structure? Post your question in our Ask the Test Maker forum!

caitlinbadeaux Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
15 Aug 2012
Posted:
7 messages
Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:02 am
I'm not worried about organizing the scratch board for space - I'm wondering how to best organize to manage time through your scratch board. I do not want to stop mid quant section to ask for another scratch board. If anyone has any tips on how they organize their scratch board to manage time (for example 8 questions per page counting down in 15 min increments or something) it would be most appreciated.

Thanks,
Caitlin

talueng Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
09 Nov 2012
Posted:
15 messages
Thanked:
1 times
Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:11 pm
vomhorizon wrote:
Given that we can ask for as many scratch boards as we want, do we really need to bother about how many questions per page etc?
Is that confirmed? So I can ask for say 5 scratch boards? Or would I have to request a new scratch board every time I am running out of pages (which would cost valuable time)?

vomhorizon Master | Next Rank: 500 Posts
Joined
20 Aug 2012
Posted:
194 messages
Followed by:
8 members
Thanked:
26 times
Test Date:
Mid. February 2013
Target GMAT Score:
700+
GMAT Score:
730
Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 9:16 pm
talueng wrote:
vomhorizon wrote:
Given that we can ask for as many scratch boards as we want, do we really need to bother about how many questions per page etc?
Is that confirmed? So I can ask for say 5 scratch boards? Or would I have to request a new scratch board every time I am running out of pages (which would cost valuable time)?
From what information i have, you can ask for one Scratch board at a time, however you do not have to finish each and every page before you ask them for it. If you have say 2 pages left and are doing quant, just raise your hand for a sec and then continue on with your questions. And then when they do arrive with the scratch board you will not be waiting for the material to arrive before starting on your next question (as you will have space left in your existing scratch board). I do not think that you'll need more than 2 Scratch boards, i mean with 10 pages a board (and i believe you can write on both sides), you can literally do a quant question per side and still not need a third SB....

_________________
"When you want to succeed as bad as you want to breathe, then you’ll be successful.” - Eric Thomas

yourshail123 Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
21 Apr 2012
Posted:
94 messages
Followed by:
1 members
Thanked:
6 times
Post Wed Nov 14, 2012 10:04 pm
I would rather say try to manage your work efficiently with limited resources.

talueng Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
09 Nov 2012
Posted:
15 messages
Thanked:
1 times
Post Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:11 am
A related questions:

In the actual exam, are numbering and time display the same as in GMATPrep, i.e. are the numbers showed as "n of total" and the time is running from total to 0? If so, the numbering scheme here, though in general useful, doesn't make sense for me, because the left column should rather show the question you are on than the questions left imho.

yourshail123 wrote:
I would rather say try to manage your work efficiently with limited resources.
I would rather say: "Find out first whether the resource is limited, otherwise don't bother with a constraint you can get rid of."

caitlinbadeaux Newbie | Next Rank: 10 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
15 Aug 2012
Posted:
7 messages
Post Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:46 am
Yes - you can have as many scratch boards if you want but I really think there should be a standard way to organize your paper so you spend for example 9 min per page for 6 questions or something. Regardless, I found during a CAT that the timing strategy above is extremely unhelpful. It just sets you up for having to count backwards, which takes up time and brain capacity. The time should show what questions you're on corresponding to what time you the clock should say at that moment.

Since I can't seem to find good advice for scratch board organization, I guess I'm going to have to come up with my own timing and own strategy, and basically this thread did not help at all.

GMAT/MBA Expert

kevincanspain GMAT Instructor
Joined
22 Mar 2007
Posted:
613 messages
Followed by:
63 members
Thanked:
171 times
GMAT Score:
790
Most Active Expert
Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 3:53 am
Jim's time scheme is very sensible. It allows for the fact that some questions will take longer than others.

What I do for the quant section is the following:

If I am beginning question number n, I have 38-n questions left and should have about 76- 2n minutes left. If I am behind, I will not rush through questions but rather make up time through educated or random guesses on a few questions I don't like and/or understand.

Regarding the scratch work, you need to find your own system, taking into account how much and how neatly you write, as well as how big you make your letters. I break up each page into 4 sections, but others make 6 sections

_________________
Kevin Armstrong
GMAT Instructor
Gmatclasses
Madrid

Free GMAT Practice Test under Proctored Conditions! - Find a practice test near you or live and online in Kaplan's Classroom Anywhere environment. Register today!

GMAT/MBA Expert

David@VeritasPrep GMAT Instructor
Joined
22 Feb 2010
Posted:
2193 messages
Followed by:
507 members
Thanked:
1186 times
GMAT Score:
770
Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 10:02 am
Not sure how we ended up on the "Ask the GMAT" maybe this one can get moved to GMAT Strategy?

For the Quant Section:

I have to agree with Kevin and second his advice about not trying to rush through questions to make up time. As he said, it is better to guess a couple of questions that you are not likely to get right anyway, as opposed to missing several questions because you tried to rush through them.

I just wanted to add one more thought...It is tough to say that you are actually behind based on an ideal sort of chart. Jim's numbers are very reasonable, but I found myself on the wrong side of those numbers in the Quant section the last time I took the test.

My own Quant timing standard is pretty simple, after question 25 I want to have 25 minutes left right? That leaves 12 questions and 25 minutes so 2 minutes per question and one extra minute for emergencies. I find that trying to decide where I am relative to the clock much sooner than that is apt to be inaccurate. Everyone gets some problems that they can do more efficiently than other problems. So I might seem to be ahead or behind after 10 questions when really I am just where I should be based on the questions that I have been asked and the questions that are remaining.

I found this to be true even after question 25. I was behind by about 5 minutes after 25 questions. So that seems like a problem, but over the next several questions I got quite a few of the number property sort of Data Sufficiency that can be done in 1 minute and so by the end of the test I was right where I should be.

So my advice is this...take it problem by problem and follow my two Quant timing standards.
1) If you can get a problem right, then focus on that problems and get it right.
2) If after 1 minute to 90 seconds you are not making progress on a problem then you will need to guess at that one and move on.

I have followed other experts' discussions of this topic and there seems to be agreement on a couple of things 1) Each correct answer is probably worth about 3:00 worth of your time so if it is going to take you less than that to solve the problem then do it. If it will take 5 minutes to answer then it is not worth it even if you answer correctly. And 2) after about 90 seconds your standard becomes "am I 30 seconds to 1 minute away from solving this?" If so then continue and carefully finish the problem. If not, if you are still multiple minutes away from solving, then you should probably guess.

Here is a link to an article I wrote about this subject called "Diagnose your way to success." It discuss some of these issues. http://www.beatthegmat.com/mba/2012/04/04/think-like-a-doctor-and-diagnose-your-way-to-gmat-success

_________________
Veritas Prep | GMAT Instructor

Veritas Prep Reviews
Save $100 off any live Veritas Prep GMAT Course

Enroll in a Veritas Prep GMAT class completely for FREE. Wondering if a GMAT course is right for you? Attend the first class session of an actual GMAT course, either in-person or live online, and see for yourself why so many students choose to work with Veritas Prep. Find a class now!

GMAT/MBA Expert

OfficialGMAT Official Company Rep
Joined
12 Jun 2012
Posted:
620 messages
Followed by:
251 members
Thanked:
143 times
GMAT Score:
800
Post Tue Nov 27, 2012 12:41 pm
Great discussion all! I wanted to jump in and clarify the question of how many scratch boards you can get. You only can get one booklet at a time, which contains 5 noteboard sheets. You can raise your hand when it is filled to request a new one. You must turn in the used one to get a new one. You can request as many new noteboards as you need. I hope that helps!

_________________
Leah
Official GMAC Representative

Have a question about customer service issues, GMAT exam policies, or GMAT exam structure? Post your question in our Ask the Test Maker forum!

Codebreaker2k Junior | Next Rank: 30 Posts Default Avatar
Joined
25 Nov 2012
Posted:
12 messages
Post Sun Dec 16, 2012 4:14 pm
Will you have a scratch pad for the verbal section?


Thanks!

Best Conversation Starters

1 Vincen 180 topics
2 lheiannie07 61 topics
3 Roland2rule 54 topics
4 ardz24 44 topics
5 VJesus12 14 topics
See More Top Beat The GMAT Members...

Most Active Experts

1 image description Brent@GMATPrepNow

GMAT Prep Now Teacher

155 posts
2 image description Rich.C@EMPOWERgma...

EMPOWERgmat

105 posts
3 image description GMATGuruNY

The Princeton Review Teacher

101 posts
4 image description Jay@ManhattanReview

Manhattan Review

82 posts
5 image description Matt@VeritasPrep

Veritas Prep

80 posts
See More Top Beat The GMAT Experts