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November is traditionally

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boomgoesthegmat Senior | Next Rank: 100 Posts Default Avatar
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November is traditionally

Post Wed May 04, 2016 4:50 am
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    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales.

    A) but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers,

    B) but even when it is compared with previous Novembers, this past November’s sales

    C) but even when they are compared with previous Novembers, sales of light trucks this past November

    D) so that compared with previous Novembers, sales of light trucks this past November

    E) so that this past November’s sales, even compared with previous Novembers’ sales,

    OA: A

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    Post Wed May 04, 2016 4:30 pm
    This question is SC #116 in OG 2016. (Please post your sources! It helps fellow students and experts).

    It's testing LOGICAL COMPARISONS because of the use of "when compared with." Here are the two questions I ask myself whenever I see comparisons:

    1. Logically, what do we mean to compare?
    2. What is this sentence actually comparing (structurally)?

    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales.

    1. Logically, what do we mean to compare? In this case: this November's sales to previous Novembers' sales.

    2. What is this sentence actually comparing (structurally)? "sales... when compared with sales..." Looks good so far.


    B) but even when it is compared with previous Novembers, this past November’s sales

    What is this actually comparing (structurally)? "It" to "Novembers." "It" seems to be referring to "this November's sales," so the pronoun doesn't agree. Incorrect.


    C) but even when they are compared with previous Novembers, sales of light trucks this past November

    What is this actually comparing (structurally)? "They" = sales. We can't compares "sales" to "Novembers." Incorrect.


    D) so that compared with previous Novembers, sales of light trucks this past November

    "So that" changes the meaning significantly. It would imply an extension of a previously stated idea, rather than a contrast. If the share of total vehicle sales is "remarkably large" for this November, we want to state that that's surprising EVEN THOUGH November is usually a strong month.

    Answer choices that get rid of a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" are usually wrong, because the contrast is usually central to the meaning.


    E) so that this past November’s sales, even compared with previous Novembers’ sales,

    Same "so that" issue as in D.


    The correct answer is A.

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    Post Thu Jul 07, 2016 7:31 am
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    Answer choices that get rid of a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" are usually wrong, because the contrast is usually central to the meaning.
    Hi Ceilidh ,

    All clear in your explanation. Can you please explain more above part?

    Many thanks in advance,

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    Post Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:03 am
    ceilidh.erickson wrote:
    B) but even when it is compared with previous Novembers, this past November’s sales
    hi Ceilidh,

    would you please clarify where is my fault.
    I can understand A is correct.. but I am not sure for B.
    IMO, in B, when it compared with the previous November,
    it stands for "November", it looks logically if compared with previous November.

    thanks a lot
    have a nice day

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    Post Wed Nov 16, 2016 1:58 pm
    Needgmat wrote:
    Quote:
    Answer choices that get rid of a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" are usually wrong, because the contrast is usually central to the meaning.
    Hi Ceilidh ,

    All clear in your explanation. Can you please explain more above part?

    Many thanks in advance,

    Kavin
    In my experience, SC original sentences that contain a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" usually NEED a contrast to complete the logical meaning of the sentence. I don't recall seeing any sentences that had contrast words but didn't need them (there may well be a few, I just can't think of any off the top of my head).

    It's relatively common, though, for a sentence to contain a contrast in the original, but to drop that contrast word in some of the answer choices. Students tend not to notice, because they don't read the whole SENTENCE + ANSWER CHOICE in its entirety.

    So as a very broad rule (noting that there may be exceptions), if the original contains a contrast word but an answer choice drops it, that answer is probably wrong.

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    Post Wed Nov 16, 2016 2:02 pm
    zoe wrote:
    ceilidh.erickson wrote:
    B) but even when it is compared with previous Novembers, this past November’s sales
    hi Ceilidh,

    would you please clarify where is my fault.
    I can understand A is correct.. but I am not sure for B.
    IMO, in B, when it compared with the previous November,
    it stands for "November", it looks logically if compared with previous November.

    thanks a lot
    have a nice day

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    When a modifying dependent clause precedes an independent clause and contains a pronoun, that pronoun must replace the SUBJECT of the independent clause. Therefore, IT must be referring to "this past November's SALES" in B.

    Does that help?

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    Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 6:55 pm
    Hi,

    A simple doubt here - if we remove the non essential modifier, the sentence doesn't make sense?

    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales..

    How can this be the correct OA? Can anyone explain please?

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    Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:24 pm
    cuhmoon wrote:
    Hi,

    A simple doubt here - if we remove the non essential modifier, the sentence doesn't make sense?

    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales..

    How can this be the correct OA? Can anyone explain please?
    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, but sales this past November, even when compared with sales in previous Novembers, accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales.

    Remove non essential modifier (red portion) and the sentence will make perfect sense.

    November is traditionally the strongest month for sales of light trucks, but sales this past November accounted for a remarkably large share of total vehicle sales.

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    Post Thu Feb 09, 2017 8:45 pm
    ceilidh.erickson wrote:
    Needgmat wrote:
    Quote:
    Answer choices that get rid of a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" are usually wrong, because the contrast is usually central to the meaning.
    Hi Ceilidh ,

    All clear in your explanation. Can you please explain more above part?

    Many thanks in advance,

    Kavin
    In my experience, SC original sentences that contain a contrast word such as "but," "although," or "despite" usually NEED a contrast to complete the logical meaning of the sentence. I don't recall seeing any sentences that had contrast words but didn't need them (there may well be a few, I just can't think of any off the top of my head).

    It's relatively common, though, for a sentence to contain a contrast in the original, but to drop that contrast word in some of the answer choices. Students tend not to notice, because they don't read the whole SENTENCE + ANSWER CHOICE in its entirety.

    So as a very broad rule (noting that there may be exceptions), if the original contains a contrast word but an answer choice drops it, that answer is probably wrong.
    Great insight and yes, there are exceptions.

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    Quote:
    In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track
    competition is concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
    lined with lead
    around the perimeter, thereby improving stability in flight and resulting in
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    A. In a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track competition is
    concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
    B. According to a previous design, the weight of the discus used in track
    competition was concentrated in a metal center, but now it is
    C. Once designed with its weight concentrated in a metal center, the discus used
    in track competition is now
    D. The discus used in track competition, once designed with its weight
    concentrated in a metal center, but now
    E. The discus used in track competition was once designed having its weight
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    Whereas heat transferred between the ocean and the atmosphere occurs more rapidly when the ocean is warmer than the air, it is slow when the ocean is colder.
    A. Whereas heat transferred between the ocean and the atmosphere occurs more rapidly when the ocean is warmer than the air, it is slow when the ocean is colder.
    B. Unlike the slow process of heat transfer between the ocean and the atmosphere when the ocean is colder than the air, heat transfers more rapidly when the ocean is warmer.
    C. The transfer of heat between the ocean and the atmosphere is slow when the ocean is colder than the air and more rapid when the ocean is warmer.
    D. Transferring heat between the ocean and the atmosphere occurs slowly when the ocean is colder than the air and more rapidly when it is warmer.
    E. When the ocean is colder than the atmosphere, heat transferred between them occurs slowly, unlike the more rapid transfer occurring when the ocean is warmer.
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