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## If y = 2z, and y and z are both positive integers

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#### If y = 2z, and y and z are both positive integers

Sat May 20, 2017 10:19 pm
x is the sum of y consecutive integers. w is the sum of z consecutive integers. If y = 2z, and y and z are both positive integers, then each of the following could be true EXCEPT

A) x = w

B) x > w

C) x/y is an integer

D) w/z is an integer

E) x/z is an integer

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It seems to me that the question really tests the ability to either quickly pick smart numbers that rule out four of the answers and/or the ability to quickly whip up an equation that will show the impossibility of one of the answers.

If I take the first approach, some easy sets are:

{1} vs {0,1} (eliminate A)

{1} vs {1,2} (eliminate B)

{1, 2, 3} (eliminate D)

{1, 2, 3, 4} vs {1, 2} (eliminate E)

If I take the second approach, I know that

x = n + (n + 1) + ... + (n + 2z - 1)

x = 2z * n + (1 + 2 + ... + 2z - 1)

x = 2zn + (2z - 1)*2z*(1/2) = 2zn + (2z - 1)*z

Since y = 2z, we know that x/y = (2nz + z * (2z - 1)) / 2z

Simplified, that becomes 2zn/2z + z*(2z - 1)/2z. The first term is an integer, but the second is not, so we'll never get an integer here for any integer z.

It's a great Q, with (at least) two clever and generally relevant paths to a solution - don't sell it short!

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Wed May 24, 2017 5:53 pm
One other trick that just occurred to me:

If you're trying to backsolve from the answers, note that C implies E. (If x is divisible by 2z, then x must be divisible by z.)

With that in mind, you don't even need to bother with E!

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Wed May 24, 2017 5:51 pm
It seems to me that the question really tests the ability to either quickly pick smart numbers that rule out four of the answers and/or the ability to quickly whip up an equation that will show the impossibility of one of the answers.

If I take the first approach, some easy sets are:

{1} vs {0,1} (eliminate A)

{1} vs {1,2} (eliminate B)

{1, 2, 3} (eliminate D)

{1, 2, 3, 4} vs {1, 2} (eliminate E)

If I take the second approach, I know that

x = n + (n + 1) + ... + (n + 2z - 1)

x = 2z * n + (1 + 2 + ... + 2z - 1)

x = 2zn + (2z - 1)*2z*(1/2) = 2zn + (2z - 1)*z

Since y = 2z, we know that x/y = (2nz + z * (2z - 1)) / 2z

Simplified, that becomes 2zn/2z + z*(2z - 1)/2z. The first term is an integer, but the second is not, so we'll never get an integer here for any integer z.

It's a great Q, with (at least) two clever and generally relevant paths to a solution - don't sell it short!

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Wed May 24, 2017 5:53 pm
One other trick that just occurred to me:

If you're trying to backsolve from the answers, note that C implies E. (If x is divisible by 2z, then x must be divisible by z.)

With that in mind, you don't even need to bother with E!

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Sun May 21, 2017 2:56 pm
Also, please always POST YOUR SOURCES. It is a copyright violation not to do so.

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