Brutal SC #17

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by s_raizada » Sun May 11, 2008 12:57 pm
Option A is written in passive voice 'be prohibited' and therefore wordy

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by chidcguy » Mon May 12, 2008 8:32 am
My 2 cents

Idioms irrespective of tense, gerunds, participles take the same form.

prohibit X from Y, forbid X to do Y

E is out for using being

Of the remaining 4 it comes down to whether subjunctive is needed or not. I initially thought the same sentence can be expressed with out subjunctive as the action has been completed. IMO, Subjunctive is used to express wish or actions that we want to see happen.

I thought I would take out A & B, lets go with C & D. But neither C & D use the correct idiom "prohibit X from Y"

That took me back to A & B. B reverses the order of prohibition and banning.

Hence A.

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by uptowngirl92 » Wed Oct 21, 2009 5:40 pm
Experts please comment between A and C.
Directive is an order>>Subjunctive..How is C correct?It's such a twisted sentence!!

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by Stacey Koprince » Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:11 am
Received a PM asking me to respond. The PM also specified that this is a GMATPrep problem; thanks for citing the source!

One of Ronald Reagan's first acts as President was to rescind President Carter's directive that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries.

(A) that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States be prohibited from sale to other countries
(B) that any chemical be prohibited from sale to other countries that was banned on medical grounds in the United States
(C) prohibiting the sale to other countries of any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States
(D) prohibiting that any chemical banned on medical grounds in the United States is sold to other countries
(E) that any chemical banned in the United States on medical grounds is prohibited from being sold to other countries
Yes, it's a twisted sentence - that's what makes these hard!

"directive" is a noun. That might be hidden because of the "President Carter's" bit, but try stripping that out and see how you'd have to write it:

"was to rescind [the] directive..."

So, it's a noun, right?

Generally, command subjunctive is constructed:
<demand signal> + that + <agent> + <base form of verb>

There are a couple of ways to give that "demand signal." The most basic way is a "bossy" verb:

I propose that uptowngirl92 be made class president.

That's not what we've got in this sentence, because "directive" is a noun.

We could also use "It is X," where X is an adjective conveying urgency (important, essential, crucial, imperative...)

That's not what's going on in this problem either.

Finally, certain conjunctions could also be the signal. I agree to vote for uptowngirl92 on condition that she pay me $5. :)

Still not what's going on in this problem.

So: we don't have a proper subjunctive set-up for this problem. Therefore, we're not required to use subjunctive. Therefore, we shouldn't use subjunctive.
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elaborate please

by navdeepbajwa » Thu Oct 22, 2009 2:54 pm
still could not get it what difference "Directive" being a noun makes it is an order so why cant be it in subjunctive mood

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IMo

by enniguy » Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:47 am
Found Ron's reply here:
https://www.manhattangmat.com/forums/one ... t2126.html

Hope it helps!

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by navdeepbajwa » Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:58 am
Can anyone please explain why E is wrong

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by heshamelaziry » Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:20 pm
This answer C does change the meaning of the sntence to suggest that Reagan is prohibiting the sale when reagan is rescinding Carter directive, which prohibits the sale.

I read all available material, but i can't make sense of C.

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by palvarez » Sat Nov 07, 2009 3:51 pm
heshamelaziry wrote:This answer C does change the meaning of the sntence to suggest that Reagan is prohibiting the sale when reagan is rescinding Carter directive, which prohibits the sale.

I read all available material, but i can't make sense of C.

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I am with you on this.

I see both A and C are equivalent. The first one is a nominal post-modification (like the chance that, the rumour that, the hypothesis that, etc). C is a restrictive modifier. And the sequences of prepositional phrases are same in both sentences.

Once OA is known, ad hoc answers abound :)

Actually, one can contest this question. My friend contested some question in OG 10th edition SC; that was in 04. ETS acknowledged it and promised to remove that question from OG.

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by itsmylife » Sun Nov 15, 2009 9:54 am
(A) that any chemical (banned on medical grounds in the United States) be prohibited from sale to other countries


A is wrong because Chemical is not prohibited.
The people are prohibited from selling the banned chemical.

Thats the difference between A and C

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by brick2009 » Mon Nov 16, 2009 12:09 am
first acts was to revoke the directive....


What was the directive about.. "prohibiting the sale of ..."

In A: directive refers to 'any chemical banned'... illogical