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66basics of programming Post Fri Jul 03, 2009 3:06 am
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    Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
    (A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
    (B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
    (C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
    (D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
    (E) like the teenager's tinkering with a car


    why not B?

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    Post Fri Jul 03, 2009 1:24 pm
    what is the OA ?

    Can someone please explain reasons to kick out each of the choices.

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    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 11:47 am
    real2008 wrote:
    Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
    (A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
    (B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
    (C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
    (D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
    (E) like the teenager's tinkering with a car


    why not B?
    Hi! Now I think A should be answer for the following reason:

    Trying (to learn some of the basics of programming) is the same as (to tinker with a car when one is a teenager): some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.


    expert opinion please................

    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:00 pm
    real2008 wrote:
    real2008 wrote:
    Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
    (A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
    (B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
    (C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
    (D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
    (E) like the teenager's tinkering with a car


    why not B?
    Hi! Now I think A should be answer for the following reason:

    Trying (to learn some of the basics of programming) is the same as (to tinker with a car when one is a teenager): some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.


    expert opinion please................
    But Manhattan say that correct idiom is "the same to X as to Y"...

    Here the idiom looks to be:

    "X is the same as Y"

    is the above highlighted too the correct idiom in GMAT ?

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    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 12:13 pm
    goelmohit2002 wrote:
    real2008 wrote:
    real2008 wrote:
    Trying to learn some of the basics of programming is the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager: some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.
    (A) the same as to tinker with a car when one is a teenager
    (B) similar to a teenager tinkering with a car
    (C) like tinkering with a car as a teenager
    (D) the same as a teenager tinkering with a car
    (E) like the teenager's tinkering with a car


    why not B?
    Hi! Now I think A should be answer for the following reason:

    Trying (to learn some of the basics of programming) is the same as (to tinker with a car when one is a teenager): some people end up going to engineering school, and others, twenty years later, remember nothing of the experience.


    expert opinion please................
    But Manhattan say that correct idiom is "the same to X as to Y"...

    Here the idiom looks to be:

    "X is the same as Y"

    is the above highlighted too the correct idiom in GMAT ?
    hmmm... need to be thought about the idiom. but parallelism, as i have tried to show in Bracket, is maintained only in choice A

    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:08 pm
    but why do we need to maintain parallelism...

    As per my understanding we need to maintain parallelism when there is some connecting thread between things....(For e.g. I did X, Y, and Z)

    and that connecting thread seems to be "is the same as"

    if this is not idiom then why do we need to maintain parallelism here ?

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    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:18 pm
    We can safely strike out C and E coz they use like to compare verbs. Like is only used to compare nouns or pronouns..

    Now between A, B and D

    You can strike out B too. trying to learn xyz is not similar to a teenager.. but it is similar "to tinker with a car" as a teenager does..

    D also does the same mistake.. the focus should be on tinkering and not on teenager.. tinkering is to repair in an unskillful manner.. very similar to learning something new like programming.. where one doesnt have the skills..

    Although A seems a long sentence , it correctly highlights and compares the right things.. i.e. to learn with to tinker..

    IMO A

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    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 1:23 pm
    dumb.doofus wrote:
    We can safely strike out C and E coz they use like to compare verbs. Like is only used to compare nouns or pronouns..

    Now between A, B and D

    You can strike out B too. trying to learn xyz is not similar to a teenager.. but it is similar "to tinker with a car" as a teenager does..

    D also does the same mistake.. the focus should be on tinkering and not on teenager.. tinkering is to repair in an unskillful manner.. very similar to learning something new like programming.. where one doesnt have the skills..

    Although A seems a long sentence , it correctly highlights and compares the right things.. i.e. to learn with to tinker..

    IMO A
    Thanks DD.

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    Post Sat Jul 04, 2009 3:43 pm
    I go for A.

    Comparison should be made between learning programming and tinkering (or to tinker).

    This logic boils down to A

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    Post Mon Jul 06, 2009 11:45 pm
    OA is A

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    Post Tue Jul 07, 2009 2:22 pm
    Agree with choice A,

    funda seems that action be parallel -
    trying to learn A is the same as to to tinker "

    here after "to" both are verbs hence when we put a subject teenager in second part - rather than tinker ( and not tinkering ) it -> it looses parallelism.

    rightly pointed above that we cannot use like here for somparison - for they are verbs.

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